Mother Charged in Deaths of Two Vancouver Infants
The news article tells of Vancouver mom, 24 year old Sarah Jee-Wah Leung, who has been charged with the murders of her two infant sons. The body of one was found a year ago in a plastic bag outside of Leung's home. Leung was questioned at the time and then released....allowing her to become pregnant again. The body of this newborn son was buried in a landfill.
Now, I could spend great lengths of time discussing failures on behalf of the legal system that allowed Ms. Leung the opportunity to murder a second baby, but that isn't the intent of this post. Nor is the intent to vilify mothers everywhere because of the actions of Ms. Leung. What I do want to address is the shocking comments from some concerning this woman's actions.
A few examples from the comments section,
If you impregnate a woman that child is your responsibility. If you think there is a chance that you could have impregnated a woman it is your responsibility to determine whether or not she is really pregnant with your child. If you do otherwise you are a deadbeat that is not taking responsibility for his actions It does have to involve both parties, a baby is made up of 2 people! Unless the father was unaware that he had a child with this woman then he should be charged!! Probably not with murder but with neglient of a child, and accomplice to a crime considering he should have been around taking care of his child to have known the mother's mental state! Both parties acted in a disgusting manner!
Charged with what, pray tell? Murder? A man, merely by fathering a child, should be held culpable for the mother's actions? Unlike the innocent babies she murdered, Ms. Leung is not a child. She is solely responsible for her actions. The father(s) who may not even be in Ms. Leung's life or aware that he is a father, bears no responsibility for the actions of Ms. Leung.
I would have thought that she'd receive therapy after the first event and be under some supervision. Failing that, where were the concerns of her neighbours? This location is one of the most culturally diverse in town, take care of one another!
Please notice how this commenter refers to murdering one's child, putting his body in a plastic bag and tossing it out in the yard as "the first event". This isn't a horrific evil act...it's just some little event that took place a year ago. Of course, the real issue is that the neighbors weren't around and helping poor Ms. Leung out. Surely they bear responsibility for the repeat of that first little mishap.
Where is the man who fathered the pregnancy?
Does he know that his babies were killed?
Tow of them should be proceeded to court charges. Not the mother only.
If they didn't try to act the mating themselves in the first place, there would be no such miserable mischief taking place.
Once they had held hand in hand doing the close intimacy, started from the inception moment, they didn't take the contraceptive precaution preparation, they should know there were chances to be getting pregnancy. But, unfortunately, they had missed it out the precaution taken before enjoying their desire of copulation. They have to pay for their irresponsibility.
More trying to redirect blame to the father.
There is also the possibility that this was the result of very serious, yet undiagnosed post-partum depression.
Can't forget the usual standby....postpartum depression.
It takes two to tango. No charges for the man who impregnated this woman?
Obviously, not all the story here.
There's more....but you get the gist. A woman has done something despicable and the first response by many is to find someone else to blame....because we all know that women are incapable of horrific acts and that evil is solely the realm of men. Surely it must be the fault of the father, the system, forces beyond her control or society in general.
I left the following comment on this article and encourage others to take the time to comment as well.
What is painfully clear is the desperate attempt by the morally defunct to remove all accountability from women. I've seen discussions on children who commit murder that are far less forgiving toward the perpetrators then people often are toward women who commit similar crimes. I've often opined that feminism, despite all it's squawking about empowerment and equality, has been very effective in reducing women to the status of children. I'm starting to rethink this position. Lately, I've noticed that children are often held to a higher standard of accountability than women. We must not criticize, we must not condemn, we must never question....even if we're talking about something as horrific as the murder of infants.
*Sigh* As usual, a woman is accused of committing a horrific crime and the apologists start coming out of the woodwork. Instead of frantically seeking for somewhere else to direct the blame, it's time to start holding women accountable for their actions. Two dead infants, seemingly at their mother's hands, and all some people can do is try to find somebody else to blame. 'Where is the father'....because surely we can assign some blame to him.
I wonder where the father is as well. Very possibly, the mother doesn't even know herself who the father(s) is. Very possibly, the man or men never even knew they were a father. Also possible, some poor guy is going to find out that the child he never knew he had was murdered at the hands of his mother. It's telling when the focus of two dead babies becomes who failed the mother and how.
The feminist hierarchy is very clearly set with women firmly at the top. The focus of this tragedy should be on the lost lives of these innocent babies. Where instead does it go? Upon the woman. Dead babies are all but forgotten in the desperate bid to free the mother from bearing the responsibility for and the consequences from her actions.


6 comments:
These types of stories boil my blood and remind me why I will never call myself a feminist!
Feminism means a woman can act vicious and selfish and yet never be held accountable for it. I thought accountability was part of the whole notion of equality!
As strongly as I am for responsibility in fathers and mothers both, if the man was not a part of this woman's life, then how would he have been in a place to stop it? Also, are we to assume the second man had any reasonable knowledge that this would occur, if the police basically swept the first death under the rug?
I find myself thinking of what happens when women go in for abortions but the father in fact wanted the child. If anyone needs counseling here, it's likely to be the father, if he ever finds out it was his child. That's what counseling is for, not for people who murder their children! As to her--what she needs is to be tried for murder.
M. C. Evers said...
I find myself thinking of what happens when women go in for abortions but the father in fact wanted the child.
Well there happens to be a well established term for exactly that situation. It's called S.O.L.
Feel free to look it up.
As to the culpability of the father(s), I think it all depends if they were in the picture at all, or as it seems they were a night of passion for the mother, and then left behind as casually as the by-products of those two matings.
"The feminist hierarchy is very clearly set with women firmly at the top."
Well that is very much open to debate.
However I agree this is of course dreadful on many levels. Firstly dead babies-that turns anyones stomach. Secondly that people appeared to want to blame the father. There were however people stating she was a monster etc.
I would argue instead of viewing a murderess or a murderer as a monster (which is extremely unlikely given they are human) we view them as just people, In doing so we as a society have to accept blame for either a) creating them or b) allowing them to exist. This is a scary prospect as it means everyone has to take the blame rather then being able to blame some sort of inherent "evil" that is just a part someone.
This would lead us to be able to address the issue rather then cloaking it in blame based on gender, or anything else for that matter. This brings me to this comment by M C Evers-
"That's what counseling is for, not for people who murder their children!"
So basically what you are saying is no matter what the circumstances a murderer should never be given therapy? How do you think that helps a) the murderer b) prevention of this crime and c) society in general?
AFOTC--A murderer should not be loosed upon society again. If there is true mental incapacity, being committed for life is appropriate, but such a person should remain in confinement rather than being released to do it again. Unless one has really and truly broken with reality and had no way to even know what they were doing, then such an act is a choice on the part of the individual, NOT a choice made for them by society. We have to get personal responsibility straight...unless someone's holding a gun to your head, or you have a serious biochemical disturbance, no one MAKES you kill. You can have the worst things happen to you yet still decide that you will be responsible for yourself, and not emulate the behavior of those who abused you.
Mind you, I do not think a place to confine people who are dangerous due to insanity should be cruel. But after you've done a thing like that, no, I don't think you should get the privilege of being in the general population again.
But to be totally blunt...if this woman is NOT proven to have such a condition where being committed for life would be the appropriate response, I think such people should be removed from society permanently, either by life in prison or by the death penalty. Society benefits by getting those people out of the population and sending a message that such acts will not be tolerated.
To simply give such a person outpatient counseling as though they are simply a wounded victim and not a perpetrator does nothing to help. Whereas the father in this case, should he find out that his children were killed, would probably benefit from such a thing.
She obviously didn't want these babies. I am surprised feminists aren't saying this was a failure of abortion facilities to properly peddle their wares to this woman. Sounds like she was performing "do it yourself" abortions on her newborns. I think this psychoanalyzing of her criminal mindset would perfectly fit onto any woman who wants to abort her child. This common theme of holding the father responsible for creating a pregnancy is not usually a concern with abortion however. So a man should be a criminal if he impregnates a woman who doesn't want the baby and she waits until it is born to kill it, but it isn't his business if she kills it before it is born. Seems a bit tricky there.
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