The Concerns of Women
Well, I recently, belatedly and surprisingly did receive the following response.
Thanks for reaching out to feminist.com and forgive me if this is a duplicate response. And if not a duplicate -- apologies for responding so late.
I general I think if anyone is bringing attention to violence committed by women it's feminists. (Case in point -- see Ann Jones, When Women Kill). And while I think it's uniquely feminists is because they take women's rage seriously - most people discount violences by women precisely because they underestimate the power of women and what they are capable of. It's also feminist who are trying to understand the roots of violence, which often begins in childhood and begins with being violated in those initial years and how it manifests over time.
Good luck raising more awareness about this...but hopefully your desire to point out women as culprits won't overshadow the fact that men are more likely to be abuses. Take care Amy
Sigh...not that I expected anything more.
You'll notice that the author points out it is feminists who have pioneered addressing violent women....of course, it's also feminist who are "trying to understand the roots of violence" and how it "begins with being violated in those initial years". In other words, feminists are delving into violence committed women in order to see how it isn't their fault and how some man is ultimately to blame.
The best part, though, comes at the end, where I am reminded that any horrific actions or behaviors on the part of women are really insignificant because "men are more likely to be abuse(r)s". And that....is feminism in a nutshell....avoidance and denial of anything remotely negative about women and an immediate redirection of focus to those horrible, evil men. Why concern ourselves with children being abused and murdered by their mothers or by women showing a complete disregard for the value of life as they lodge false rape accusations at innocent men. What could these things matter as long as there are men out there hurting women. Apparently, nothing is of as great of importance as the welfare of women...not even the lives of children.
The state of womanhood will continue it's stark decline until the time comes that those who purport to speak in their behalf start addressing the issues that really effect women. While we can't control the actions of others the one thing we have complete autonomy over is our own actions. Apparently it's better to be hapless victims then to take responsibility for one's own life....but wait....I thought women were strong and empowered....ah yes, just one more feminist contradiction.
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And this is a prime example of why I consider myself an egalitarian rather than a feminist. Whether one is a man or a woman, we all have to answer for ourselves, no matter who did what to us. No doubt some men have brought harm to women. But wrongs have been done to men, too, that need redress, and I want very much to help with that, too. What about men who are victims of violence (especially sexual violence)? They should not be exposed to ridicule, but given the same consideration as a woman who is abused...and frankly, need support and understanding both from women and other men so that they do not feel they have to be so harsh on their own self-worth after someone commits that sort of violent act upon them.
It seems to me that opening up the social environment so that the harms done to women can be openly spoken of--which is a good thing--should have come with an equal act of love (and that's what it is, to support each other when circumstances get painful) towards men.
Hi Kim, good to see you posting again.
From my POV, the very last folks to bring attention to the physical violence committed by women are feminists, precisely because they minimize it as your interlocutor Amy does in her note to you.
And when someone does bring up IPV and they dare to stray from the fem party line (as pro-fem professor Murray Strauss has), they ignore or shout him or her down.
The fact of the matter is this: it is women, not men, who are more likely to commit and initiate IPV...it's just that men are more likely to be arrested for it, and women are more likely to be badly injured.
She does have a point that society at large tends to not take women's rage seriously. Something that MRAs and game-sters and others are looking to change.
nothing surprising there, you should also read my piece "victim power is petty vengence" in seems to fall into the same categoryst
good luck sending the letter to NOW you will probably be called a misogynist
Violence against women and children will decrease when women begin to make more responsible choices in their lives.
Look at the number of children killed by men who are NOT the fathers of the children. By men whom the mother chose to introduce into their children's lives after the natural father is out of the picture.
It's a long running tragedy that many divorced single mothers will almost always take up with a thug or low-life. The kind of criminal which would have no compunction about harming a child.
Yet feminists automatically blame the fathers as the source of all abuse without one mention of the role the mother's choice in partner played in these tragedies.
I've seen too much of this in the real world to think it's only a coincidence.
Feminism means never having to say you're sorry for any of your choices. And it's the children who are taking the fall for it.
I'll say one thing to all these feminists, hatred begs hatred and revenge will only spawn revenge. The open hatred of today's feminists will come back to bite them, hard.
Not far down the road "normal, average" men will simply take back their power, they'll simply take away the rights women have fought for because they'll see the disastrous results. No amount of coercion, no number of police thugs or gov't harassment will stop millions of average men who are fed up with this system.
They'll simply and completely abolish modern feminism and it won't be pretty.
It's happened in other societies and it could happen in the West as well.
I find feminism to be a joke because many of its adherents are bigoted. I've visited feminist blogs and They all promote the victim mentality the very thing that is denounced as paternalistic with feminist circles!
"It's a long running tragedy that many divorced single mothers will almost always take up with a thug or low-life. The kind of criminal which would have no compunction about harming a child.:
I think this is quite untrue. Can you provide any support of this assertion?
"I think this is quite untrue. Can you provide any support of this assertion?"
I don't have proof but I read the newspaper...it's always the boyfriend.
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