I often hear feminists refute anti-feminism with claims of the 'true' equitable, just and innocuous nature of feminism. Feminism is merely women looking out for the welfare, health and interests of women......It does not embrace hatred and discrimination or encourage anti-marriage, anti-heterosexuality, anti-male philosophies....
Read on.......
"Feminism is built on believing women's accounts of sexual use and abuse by men." -- Catharine MacKinnon
"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." Catherine MacKinnon
"All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French Author, "The Women's Room" (quoted again in People Magazine) "All men are rapists and that's all they are ..." --Feminist Marilyn French, People Magazine (Percent of reported rape or near-rape incidents = .07% [The FBI's Uniform Crime Report lists for the year 1996])
"[Rape] is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which ALL MEN KEEP ALL WOMEN IN A STATE OF FEAR" [emphasis added] -- Susan Brownmiller (Against Our Will p. 6)
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership." -- Andrea Dworkin.
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." -- Andrea Dworkin
"Romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks." Andrea Dworkin in the Philadelphia Inquirer, May 21, 1995..
"Under patriarchy, no woman is safe to live her life, or to love, or to mother children. Under patriarchy, every woman is a victim, past, present, and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's daughter is a victim, past, present, and future. Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman," Andrea Dworkin, Liberty, p.58..
"One can know everything and still be unable to accept the fact that sex and murder are fused in the male consciousness, so that the one without the imminent possibly of the other is unthinkable and impossible." Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 21..
"In every century, there are a handful of writers who help the human race to evolve. Andrea is one of them."--Gloria Steinem
"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual [male], it may be mainly a quantitative difference." -- Susan Griffin "Rape: The All-American Crime"
(p. 86)
"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." -- Sheila Jeffrys
"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire." -- Robin Morgan, "Theory and Practice: Pornography and Rape" in "Going to Far," 1974.
"Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don't like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I'll run you down." -- Letter to the Editor: "Women's Turn to Dominate" -- Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia -- Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia - 9 February 1996
Toward a Feminist Theory of the State. Catharine A. MacKinnon, 1989, First Harvard University Press (paperback in 1991) [a legal treatise comparing and contrasting feminism with COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM]
"It is not only men convicted of rape who believe that the only thing they did that was different from what men do all the time is get caught."
"If sexuality is central to women's definition and forced sex is central to sexuality, rape is indigenous, not exceptional, to women's social condition."
"Under law, rape is a sex crime that is not regarded as a crime when it looks like sex. The law, speaking generally, defines rape as intercourse with force or coercion and without consent., Like sexuality under male supremacy, this definition assumes the sadomasochistic definition of sex: intercourse with force or coercion can be or become consensual."
"Compare victims' reports of rape with women's reports of sex. They look a lot alike....[T]he major distinction between intercourse (normal) and rape (abnormal) is that the normal happens so often that one cannot get anyone to see anything wrong with it." Catherine MacKinnon, quoted in Christina Hoff Sommers, "Hard-Line Feminists Guilty of Ms.-Representation," Wall Street Journal, November 7, 1991.
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" -- Ti-Grace Atkinson "Amazon Odyssey" (p. 86)
"In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Catherine MacKinnon in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies, p. 129..
"[Acquaintance rape] is more common than left-handedness, alcoholism and heart attacks." Naomi Wolf, The Beauty Myth (in the feminist attempt to build a case that "one in four" women have been raped in America.)
"[R]ape represents an extreme behavior, but one that is on a continuum with normal male behavior within the culture." Prof. Mary Koss of Kent State University (1982)
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." Catherine Comins, Vassar College Assistant Dean of Student Life in Time, June 3, 1991, p. 52..
As cited in Andrea Dworkin's "Right-Wing Women" "...I submit that any sexual intercourse between a free man and a human being he owns or controls is rape." -- Alice Walker in "Embracing the Dark and the Light," Essence, July 1982. (Feminists believe that marriage = ownership).
"Compare victims' reports of rape with women's reports of sex. They look a lot alike....[T]he major distinction between intercourse (normal) and rape (abnormal) is that the normal happens so often that one cannot get anyone to see anything wrong with it." Catherine MacKinnon, quoted in Christina Hoff Sommers, "Hard-Line Feminists Guilty of Ms.-Representation," Wall Street Journal, November 7, 1991.
"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, (editor of MS magazine)
A young woman at the University of Pennsylvania who wore a short skirt complained of a "mini-rape" because a young man walked past her and said, "Nice legs." (Camille Paglia and Christine Hoff Sommers, "Has Feminism Gone Too Far?" Think Tank with Ben Wattenberg, Produced by New River Media, Washington, DC, November 4, 1994.)
"Female heterosexuality is not a biological drive or an individual women's erotic attraction or attachment to another human animal which happens to be male. Female heterosexuality is a set of social institutions and practices... Those definitions... are about the oppression and exploitation of women [by men]." Marilyn Frye, Willful Virgin: Essays in Feminism, 1976-1992 ( Freedom: Crossing Press,1992) p.132
And finally, a very disturbing account of the lengths feminists are allowed to go to in our educational institutions in order to vilify and demonize young men.
At the University of Maryland, some female students posted the names of male students selected at random, young men about whom they knew nothing, under the heading "Potential Rapists." The message was that all men are potential rapists, though the men actually named probably did not find much comfort in that... (John Leo, "De-escalating the gender war" U.S. News and World Report, April 18,1994, p.24.)
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Kim --
This compilation is an instant classic. Thanks for taking the effort to set this up. I am going to add a permanent link to this specific post on my blog.
Nova
I tend to write off the words of Andrea Dworkin as the musings of a bitter old crank who never got asked out.
Seriously, look at some of these feminist "writers" and see why they hate men so much, very few of them look like any man would willingly touch em with somebody else's penis.
The random posting of young men's names at the University of Maryland should've been met with a harsh legal response. If I were a male student I would be suing for defamation and a lot more, I'd put those students who did this through the legal wringer.
Feminism is now well on the road to a form of national socialism(Nazism in other words), look in the near future for the legalized murder of men in "self defense" also look for segregation based on gender with preferential treatment for women.
Marriage is dead in the Anglosphere, many women don't realize that the destabilization of the fabric of society is well underway. The hardcore feminist think it's now their opportunity to institutionalize/legalize their abuse of men.
I'll say this as honestly as possible, if the feminists back men into a corner, thinking they can turn them into cowering slaves with government backing, they're going make a big and deadly mistake. A lot of men are unplugging from society and no longer care about the welfare of women, these men are going to live their own lives as quietly as possible. But if the feminists declare men to be no better then indentured servant or slaves and are here only to serve the matriarchy they'll pay a very heavy price for it.
American politics is already more divided then is was during the time of the American Civil War, feminism will most likely push things over the edge and frankly those women who don't support the radical or hardcore feminists had better speak up and soon.
My guess is that the next layer of people to be demonized will be those moderate feminists and women who support a traditional lifestyle. Look in the media and you can already see their attacks on women who don't agree with the NOW partyline. And these attacks will get much worse so for those moderate women, look out, your turn is next.
Both Andrea Dworkin, and Catharine MacKinnon were both married or engaged. Which makes them hypocrites. Why women can't see through their bullshit I will never know. But let's be honest, marriage is literally the purchase of a woman's sexuality by a man, womb and all. And the relationship between men and women will always be like this, and it's ok. We women don't have to enter into a marriage contract if we don't want and that is ok too. There is no need to destroy the lives of men in the process, which the feminist have done, well. It's obvious to me that most feminist are the biggest misagonists. They hate their own sexuality and are uncomforable with it, or should I say they hate other womens sexuality and the power it holds. Either way it's their own personally problem that they project on to other women. They are merely syphoning womens sexuality and using that power in the most destructive way possible. Anyway, I'm rambling....you get the point.
Kimberly
Reading these quotes from feminists is a lot like looking at quotes from people like Goebbels and Hitler to justify what they were doing to the Jews.
It just makes me sick that someone can look at a person from a certain group and decide that they aren't human, like feminists have done with men.
Anon @ 8:00
You are right, it is pretty disgusting and sick. I can't believe they have gotten away with this for so long.
When I think about the war that is being waged against men, marriage and families (me being one of the casulities of said war). I Often equate the struggle to the Battle Of Britain. When 640 brave souls in thier Spitfires And Hurricanes were the only thing that stood between Great Britain and the might of Nazi Germany. The resolve of the RAF pilots IMHO is beyond reproach.
People Like Kim and many others who's Blogs and webpages are thier Spitfire and Hurricans, and knowledge thier ammunition. Who use it to defend men, marriage and family which is thier island, againt the feminist war machine. To these few brave souls I offer a salute.
We shall go on to the end,
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Families, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender,
*Edited from Winston Churchills blood sweat and tears speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sam5omG0v0
Threw this in because it just felt fitting.
Nazism, Sexism, Racism, anti-Semitism, Feminism. I don't think that the difference between these hate movements is a moral difference. I think the difference is simply a matter of how well or poorly they are restrained.
Ok...so what about the feminist who claims to not agree with any of that and adheres to "Christian" Feminism?
What do you do with that?
MarkyMark referred you to me =p
Reading these quotes from feminists is a lot like looking at quotes from people like Goebbels and Hitler to justify what they were doing to the Jews.
It just makes me sick that someone can look at a person from a certain group and decide that they aren't human, like feminists have done with men.
Anon,
What's even worse is that this belief system has permeated all of our culture, and it's enshrined in our legal system. Men truly are second class citizens nowadays. We have no rights, thanks to this inimical ideology.
MarkyMark
@Christina,
If they don't agree with "any of that", then they've aligned themselves with the wrong movement. Ultimately, there is no 'good kind' of feminism.
Those quotes don't come from some extreme, fringe element but from women who led and defined the modern feminist movement.
Feminism is based and exists upon a foundation of hatred and lies. It is a movement that promotes itself through the vilification and at the expense of men.
If they don't believe any of that then it makes no sense to call themselves feminists because that is the reality of feminism.
It's like calling oneself a white supremacist and then saying, "but I don't believe in any of that white power, anti-black, anti-jew stuff."
Additionally, feminism is an immoral, anti-life movement that promotes abortion and promiscuity while despising men, families, morality and motherhood. I can't imagine any true Christian intentionally aligning themselves with such a movement.
A wonderful set of quotes that illustrates to me the shear negative power that has enveloped our society. I don't understand how the people saying those words can be so full of hate towards a group of people. How hypocritical can they be? Thank you for pulling them together though I must admit it turns my stomach to read them all at once.
People are people whether they were born with a P or a V. I love most men..... most men love women... I believe in equal partnership. There are some things some men I know can do better than me and vice versa. Plus, if women erradicated all men then all women would have to ban together. .... then we'd all get on the same menstrual cycle and then when it comes to pms time we would all blow ourselves up anyway cause we got on each others nerves. lol. There has to be a medium of acceptance and understanding and balance...
I have come to believe it would be easier to convince someone that the Apollo Moon Landing was a hoax than it would be to convince someone that Feminism is a hate movement perpetrated by the Central Banks.
Try reading www.henrymakow.com
Kim, thanks for the great website!
It's really good to see some American women out there who have common sense attitudes about relations between the sexes.
I'm a young guy from the northeastern US, well educated, middle class, fairly liberal, religious but not a fundamentalist, and I find that most of the American women I've dated have an attitude of female superiority and outright disrespect or dislike for masculine traits in men. They basically seem to want guys who will be like a girlfriend to them rather than a man, plus some sex.
I've dated a couple of foreign women and found that they were much more comfortable with their femininity and with men being men. However there are other cultural differences that seem to make these relationships challenging, to say the least.
I don't want to marry a woman who wants to be either dominant over a man or submissive to a man. I just want equality and mutual respect. This seems to be hard to find in America nowadays.
Do you have any suggestions about where American women can be found who think the way you do about gender issues, NOT either feminism or a fundamentalist religious view that women should always be submissive toward their husband? I'd prefer to find an American woman, but if I can't find Americans who share this perspective then I'll have to keep dating foreign women I guess. Any thoughts?
There was actually few, which I haven't seen before. Thank's Kim!
I'm an African American woman and I see no value in calling myself a feminist. First of all I don't hate men!
Second unlike those crazy man-haters I want to get married and possibly have children result from said marriage.
Unlike those crazy ladies I value my femininity and I don't frown upon women who choose to be homemakers and housewives. I see being a housewife as just another choice a woman can make!
You are comparing Radical feminism with feminism as a movement grown to defend woman rights in the whole world. I am a feminist: and I am proud of it because there are lots of things to do regarding abuse, maltreatment and economical dependency.
Well-said to both of the last two anons!! You guys are awesome. The original feminists were mothers and wives wanting the vote and jobs; what I call classical feminists and they were not what you feature here.
I don't entirely blame the one saying "It's our turn to rule and if you don't like it tough"-she had reason to be pissed off. If certain male posters around here have been allowed to say nasty generalized things about women due to their anger from personal abuse, I think that feminist had the same rights.
"But let's be honest, marriage is literally the purchase of a woman's sexuality by a man, womb and all. And the relationship between men and women will always be like this, and it's ok. We women don't have to enter into a marriage contract if we don't want and that is ok too."
Well said, Kimberly.
I found this blog by Googling "the truth about feminism". Excellent post!
You do realize that these quotes are taken out of context. They're outdated. These are quotes from a time when women were SECOND CLASS citizens. Ladies, if you were a woman in this era, are you telling me you wouldn't be feeling the same way? My grandmother was denied admission to law school, simply because she was female, and the professor did not want to teach her. All men in this era WERE pigs and brutes. To be otherwise would have made said man a mockery. You can't take old feminist quotes and use them against the evolved feminist movement. It's the same as feminists using old crimes against women as ammunition for their respective causes. It's out of context, and serves no purpose.
"All men in this era WERE pigs and brutes."
Wow, I totally see what you mean when you say that you have 'evolved' beyond the radical feminism of yore!
Except to say that these so-called out-dated quotes are still preached as gospel in womyn's studies courses. Of course, nothing is more vacuous and less productive of real life skills than womyns studies, but there you go...
And as for men being brutes and pigs durning those so-called bad old days, let me remind you that it was men who were called upon to do all the dangerous stuff to build society and keep civilization moving forward. The women were expected to keep the homes and raise the children because that was the deal back then; the man's life and strength in return for a safe haven for him and his family. That was the deal.
Take a look around at the legal landscape, Bianca, and see the world these women have made. When a woman rapes a young boy, it's "forbidden love". When a man does it, he goes to prison for twenty years...if he manages to live that long. One accusation of rape, abuse, or merely making a woman feeeel afraid, and the man is arrested, tried, and convicted with no proof, no opportunity to face his accuser, and no rights. Plus, he gets to pay for the privilege.
Out of context my ass.
Excuse away the voices of your hateful, mentally deranged sisters, Bianca. The fact of the matter is, those words serve a great deal of purpose. They remind men what civilization has become, and that we men do not owe you a thing. Sit and rot in the world you and they have made.
>>The original feminists were mothers and wives wanting the vote and jobs; what I call classical feminists and they were not what you feature here.
Sorry, your view of history is pure fiction. Look up the lives of the 19th Century feminists and you will find some sick women.
Let me add here that history shows that as civilizations grow and become stronger, they inevitably give women the right to vote. Yes, it happened thousands of years ago, always just before the end of the civilization.
And, once women get the right to vote, it is inevitable that women will dominate the political system.
And, once women dominate the political system, it is inevitable that their demands for more and more benefits at the expense of men, and more and more protections from everything, including their own bad decisions and adultery, destroys the civilization.
I read not long ago that in the last days of the Roman Empire feminism did pretty much the same things, as far as protections that turn into weapons to destroy men, free divorce with all the assets men have being given to women, that men there also stopped marrying. One of the last Caesars issued an edit that any man who didn't marry by age 35 was to lose all his properties, so the men started marrying foreign women. Hee, hee.
A book available online, free, Sex and Culture, 1934, by Unwin, documents a large number of civilizations in regards to female sexual freedom. I could write a lot, but the basic issue is that in a society when women obtain total sexual freedom, that first generation will live to see the end of their society.
I suggest you self-labeled feminists start studying Arabic.
Anonymous age 67
Bianca, what the fuck are you talking about? These quotes are mainly from the 1990's - not the 1890's! Which pretty much makes your anecdote about your grandmother irrelevant. This is still the current viewpoint of feminism.
September 24, 2009 5:01 PM
Spocksdisciple said...
"The random posting of young men's names at the University of Maryland should've been met with a harsh legal response. If I were a male student I would be suing for defamation and a lot more, I'd put those students who did this through the legal wringer.
Feminism is now well on the road to a form of national socialism(Nazism in other words),.."
The red stockings manifesto is to feminism, what mein kampf was to the nazis.
http://www.redstockings.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76&Itemid=103
My ears are smoking...my brain malfunctioned trying to process this overload in stupidity. I can't believe that these ideas exist, but also that they exist in such large amounts. Ugh!
If I were a woman I would be surely alarmed at those venom spitters claiming to represent "women". They are nuts and deserve nothing but contempt, but the atmosfere they try to create is dangerous.
Man's only response to this would have to be not to pay attention to women at all since anything can be considered "rape". This is a new ultraconservative moralism, far worse than any "patriarchal" society.
Look at the bright side: by being so stupid, so openly man-hating, these hens unmask all feminism's hidden agenda.
And take a look on Chile now, were mining companies' workers are trapped deep underground suffering something that's only gone through by man. Tell me about labour conditions for men and women.
To Author: So, you gather the quotes of radical feminists and assume it pertains to feminism as a whole? Feminism incorporates many ideas (including opposing ideas), its not a solid movement, but a network of movements that incorporate each other through dialogue and common causes. You have no idea what feminism is about.
"Sorry, your view of history is pure fiction"
Not at all, sweetie. I know of both nasty feminists and the ones whose names were most remembered: the good early feminists. If some women did demand benefits only for themselves, they're no more wicked than the masters of patriarchy.
Hats off to you Kim. I wish all those idiots who mindlessly support 'feminism'[which is really,anti-woman] had a fraction of your intelligence to see the truth.Though a male I have always been inclined to be a bit more partial to females.In a way this is natural isn't it? It's this normal attraction that the sexes have for each other,that makes human life on earth tick!
Probably I was living in a dream world of my own,thinking that all women were angels.
The reality is shocking to say the least. Yes! women can be evil,and when they are evil they seem to surpass the men in their deeds!
Keep up the good work KIM,we need good people from both the sexes to fight and defeat these malevolent creatures.
Let them rot in their own bitterness
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