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Thursday, November 1, 2007

This poor guy

I met a young couple the other day with three little boys. The father, who was in the military, was getting ready to leave in a couple of days for Iraq. As I chatted with them, I tried to think of a way to convey my thanks to him for putting his life on the line in the service of our country; I tried to think of a way to express my concern and my empathy for him and his family. As I was half listening to the conversation and half trying to decide the best way to express my gratitude and concern to virtual strangers, something happened that really made me sad. I was speaking to the wife and the youngest son, barely a toddler, decided he wanted to try and tackle the staircase. As he attempted to go downstairs, his oldest brother got in front of him and stopped him. The toddler got upset at this impediment and started crying. The mother saw what was happening and began reprimanding her older son for upsetting the baby. Upon this, the father stepped forward in defense of his son and explained to his wife that he'd told the boy to watch his brother and not let him go downstairs. His wife's response was to roll her eyes and yell, "Hello! Who's the adult here? You don't put your six year old son in charge of the baby, you do it yourself. My gosh! Am I the only adult around here. Can't I trust you to handle anything?" Then she turned back to me, rolled her eyes and apologized (I'm sure for the alleged stupidity of her husband and not her own behavior) and politely continued our conversation. I watched her husband throughout this and felt so bad for the guy. You could tell he was angry and embarassed, but too polite to start a fight with her over it in front of me. I, not only pitied the poor man, but I was also really angry. Here her husband's getting ready to leave for Iraq for a year, having to be separated from his family, who knows if he'll even survive, and THESE are his parting memories...this is the respect and appreciation he'll carry with him. I related this incidence to another person who speculated that perhaps the wife's behavior was atypical and merely an expression of her own stress and anxiety over her husband's leaving. Maybe...but who cares? Knowing what her husband was about to face, knowing what little time she has with him, she should have buried her own fears to be there for him. Ofcourse, noting the ease with which she derided him in front of a perfect strange, I tend to think this was typical behavior. I seriously doubt she gave it a second thought. This is, unfortunately, how many husbands are treated today. The message in the media is that men are to be treated like incompetants or like children. They aren't intelligent enough to do anything on their own and the average wife has little patience for their "ineptitude". It's amazing that men gave us the ability to fly and got us to the moon but still manage to be given the title of incompetant. Ofcourse, we all know they're not. This is the feminist ploy to empower women. Get them to look down on and belittle their husbands so they can feel better about themselves; and men, because they're too kind to respond in like, let them. You hear the word abuse tossed around quite regularly in conjunction with marriage, generally being attributed to a husband's treatment of his wife. This--meaning the behavior I described above--is abuse. It is verbal and emotional abuse and it happens all the time and nobody thinks anything of it. On the contrary, many people find it funny. After this humiliating experience, the duly chastened husband avoided further conversation and stayed with his sons. I tried to convey some of my feelings to him, with my eyes and sympathetic smile, but I didn't have the opportunity to extend to him my thanks and well-wishes. I can only hope that at some point, his wife looked beyond herself a bit to give him some of the warmth, love and respect he truly deserved before he left.

13 comments:

TheManOnTheStreet said...

Should have said to her:

"Since you're the only adult, maybe YOU should be the one putting your life on the line instead of him....."

TMOTS

flint's gunner said...

"I related this incidence to another person who speculated that perhaps the wife's behavior was atypical and merely an expression of her own stress and anxiety over her husband's leaving. "

Yeah right! This snotty attitude is de rigueur for modern women in the West. This is why I no longer even make an attempt at dating. These silly cows are so immersed in their Grrrrl Power! reality, so thoroughly indoctrinated and corrupted, that they believe immitating the idiotic sitcoms they see on TV is an appropriate way to go through life. They are empty vessels, bereft of all feminine charm and impulse, and having become as relentlessly sounding brass and implacably tinkling cymbals. It has become well-nigh impossible to spend quality time around women, because every simple little thing has been reinterpreted as some bizarre power struggle in the twisted little viper's nest that passes for their minds. The above story is a perfect illustration of what I'm talking about. It's RUDE to humiliate people in public, to say nothing of the total absence of Class on display. I wouldn't waste any more of my time around a shrew like that; they can't be saved because they already know EVERYthing, and so cannot hear anything a mere male has to say. That poor guy isn't going to Iraq to serve, he's going to ESCAPE. Thank God I never saddled myself with a nasty little Know-It-All trollop like the one you described!

Egghead said...

I'd observe that the older child acted as an adult since he took his responsibility seriously and acted on it.

And I'd like to ask a question.

Why did you let her get away with that behavior?

Kim said...

And I'd like to ask a question.

Why did you let her get away with that behavior?


Good question. A small part of the reason is that it was in a work environment and they were clients introduced to my be my boss, but I don't think that alone would have stopped me. The main reason was the look of humiliation on his face. Although he refused to rejoin the conversation, he remained in earshot. I just didn't think he needed the final humiliation of me jumping to defend him against your wife. I think he was completely appalled at what part I had already taken in the whole situation and that the last thing he'd have wanted was for me to compound the issue by confronting his wife. Believe me, I've questioned myself more than once over whether or not I should have said something, but I just didn't want to add in any way to his discomfort and humiliation.

Egghead said...

Sounds like you made a smart choice.

TheManOnTheStreet said...

Never thought of that way Kim... Thanks for the difference of prospective. I agree with the eggman... good call!

TMOTS

MarkyMark said...

Kim,

Though I'd initially wanted to chastise you for not jumping to the poor SOB's defense, I changed my tune for a couple of reasons. One, I was in a somewhat similar situation myself recently; though I'd wanted to say something, I didn't quite know HOW to say it. Two, I didn't know that it was in the work environment. Three, I didn't think about the humiliation the poor SOB was feeling.

While part of me feels for the guy, he deserves what he gets; any guy dumb enough to marry an American woman deserves whatever he gets. I mean, it's not like they try to HIDE their crappy personalities. I just hope she doesn't bolt, divorce him, and take him to the cleaners while he's over in the Mideast; shoot, he'll be lucky if he doesn't come home to a jail cell for back child support. Man, I am SO GLAD I'm not married!

Now, on to my situation. I remember going to a local cruise night 6-8 weeks ago. I rode my W650, which looks like the classic Brit bikes of the 1960s, but without the leaking oil, Lucas electrics, etc.; IOW, it's reliable! As you might guess, since it has a classic look to it, i.e. it looks like a bike SHOULD look, I get a lot of attention whenever I park it somewhere. This night was no exception...

As I was removing my helmet, gloves, and jacket, a slightly overweight man wearing a shirt & tie came up to me; it looked like he'd just gotten home from work. That's what I thought anyway, since there's train station nearby. It was also Friday night, and it was natural for them to be out on the town enjoying the old cars, bikes, bistros, and bars along the main drag there.

With him was an attractive, blond woman. They were clearly together as a couple. Given their demeanor, I thought that they were married, but I never checked nor asked; I didn't have a chance to, because the guy started talking about my bike.

Anyhow, this woman was wearing fresh, new jeans or slacks; in the dark, it was hard to tell, the street lights notwithstanding. She also wore a pink, sleeveless top. To put it bluntly, I thought she was a little too hot for him, and that she was with him only because he was successful. Even so, because I was so involved talking bikes with the guy, not only mine, but the ones he used to ride, so I didn't pay her much mind. That, and it's not cool to covet thy neighbor's wife...

As our conversation is winding down, the woman finally faced me, as the couple were turning to walk away. It was then that I noticed her top had a saying on it, one that TOTALLY PISSES ME OFF: "Boys are stupid. Throw rocks at them." I didn't say anything at the time, either.

One, my mind wasn't on that; after all, I'd been talking about my bike with this man. Since folks everywhere just HAVE to talk to me about my bike, I put myself in the frame of mind to do so whenever I park somewhere. Shoot, I remember when I had to work on it outside my front door last year; I spent 2-3 times as much time talking to people about the bike as I did adjusting its chain that night! I don't mind that; it comes with the territory when you have a classic bike, or bike that has that look. That, and I like my bike, and I'm glad that others like it too. So, when I park it anywhere, I get in the frame of mind to talk about it; I think about all the classic styling cues it has, so that I can point them out as we talk, and so I can juxtapose it with the T-120 Bonnevilles on which it was based. For example, when I was talking with the man @ cruise night, he asked me about the tank, saying he didn't remember the old Bonnie having a tank that big. I said that he was right, because the T-120 had a 3.2 gallon tank, whereas mine has 4.3 gallon tank. When you see the original, either in pictures or in person, it's readily obvious, for the T-120's tank is much narrower than mine. I then said that this was one of the most OBVIOUS differences between my bike vs. the T-120. Whenever I park my W650 anywhere, especially if it's at a bike or cruise night (as this was), that's the frame of mind I have to be in, because I'll have conversations such as the one I had with this man. Again, I don't mind; it comes with the territory. I just like to be READY to enter that territory!

Two, I was hungry; I hadn't eaten supper, and my stomach was telling me to eat something, pronto! The last thing I wanted was a protracted scene, especially when I couldn't think clearly; when I'm hungry, I have trouble with that.

Finally, I just didn't know how to put my offense into words. Subtlety has NEVER been my strong point; I've been called a bull in a china shop, ok?! While I'm ok with that, I also realize that such an approach isn't always best. Since that night, I've given thought to how I'd handle such a situation when I'm faced with it again. While I have a good idea of what to do, I haven't decided 100% which approach would be best.

Finally, let me say "Amen!!" to what Flint's Gunner said. He's 100% right, and his sentiments reflect mine, and those of an increasing number of men. We're just SICK & TIRED of American women's BS, and we no longer want anything to do with them. Have a good night, Kim.

MarkyMark

Kim said...

Honestly, it would have made me feel a whole heck of a lot better to tell his wife exactly what I thought of her and her disgusting attitude...but I think it would have served my interest and not the husbands.

@ MarkyMark

Your bike sounds great! My dad had a Yamaha 1200 touring bike when I was growing up. He'd take me on road trips to classic car and bike shows when I was a kid. I love restored, classic bikes.

sam said...

Kim, I think you made the right decision not to say anything.

Being "at work" notwithstanding, I think if you had stepped up for the guy, his shrew would have just made him pay for it later because in her mind it would be his fault.

Personally, I'll break up a physical fight, but anything a couple says to each other is between them...

jtest28 said...

Men need to know that the women who observe this tyope of stuff by other women, are against it. So many women will ALWAYS side with the women, and I am willing to bet money he probably suspects the chances are that you were on her side.

pdwalker said...

The problem with saying nothing is that by your silence, it remains acceptable to continue doing this.

As long as it is allowed to continue, it will remain "acceptable". Even worse, expect that kind of behaviour to get even more exaggerated as there are no constraints on this kind of behaviour.

One doesn't have to turn into a shrieking harpy, but one can simply address the woman by saying something like...

"your husband is going away for a year - do you think it is appropriate to address him that way in public just before he goes? off to war?"

then you could turn to the man and tell him "thanks" for what he is doing.

Will the wife get the message? Probably not the first time, but if it happens enough, at least she'll learn to keep her poisonous tongue still in public.

As for the man, well I think a lot of men would love to hear that someone is finally "on their side" for a change. I doubt very many would feel embarrassed at all. (more embarassed for their wives perhaps).

Nothing more needs to be said, even if the woman becomes hysterical afterwards.

Never tolerate rude behaviour else you will only encourage more.

pdwalker said...

The problem with saying nothing is that by your silence, it remains acceptable to continue doing this.

As long as it is allowed to continue, it will remain "acceptable". Even worse, expect that kind of behaviour to get even more exaggerated as there are no constraints on this kind of behaviour.

One doesn't have to turn into a shrieking harpy, but one can simply address the woman by saying something like...

"your husband is going away for a year - do you think it is appropriate to address him that way in public just before he goes? off to war?"

then you could turn to the man and tell him "thanks" for what he is doing.

Will the wife get the message? Probably not the first time, but if it happens enough, at least she'll learn to keep her poisonous tongue still in public.

As for the man, well I think a lot of men would love to hear that someone is finally "on their side" for a change. I doubt very many would feel embarrassed at all. (more embarassed for their wives perhaps).

Nothing more needs to be said, even if the woman becomes hysterical afterwards.

Never tolerate rude behaviour else you will only encourage more.

Joe said...

You know a similar situation occurred with me just a month ago when I ran into a business acquaintance of mine out in the world. He was with his wife, another couple and two adorable little ankle biters and an infant tucked in a stroller. Introductions were made and we chatted in the parking lot for a few minutes when one of the children, little girl of 4 or so, started to wander off. The father immediately called after her and her older brother grabbed his younger sister by the collar and jerked her backwards roughly toward the group. Just then a group of teens on BMXs went buy oblivious to everything around them. The girl started crying and immediately the mother began chastising the boy. When she grabbed him by the arm and said, "What were you thinking? She could have been hurt!" her son immediately responded that she was wandering off and he was told not to let her wander off. The father offered gamely that she'd wandered off and the boy was just look after his sister, he was just trying to protect her. The woman turned like a viper and practically spat her words at her husband. She chastised him for putting an eight year old boy in charge of his children when he should have been looking after them himself. My friend and his wife said nothing, and while the man continued to get the sharp side of his wife's tongue I finally spoke up.

I interrupted her diatribe and said, "You know, I was standing here and I saw it happen. The boy saw his sister wandering off into the parking lot and corralled her before she could get run over. He probably saved her from serious injury because those kids on bikes sure as hell weren't looking where they were going when they whizzed by here. Instead of yelling at him (the husband) you should be commending him for teaching your son what it means to be a responsible young man and you should tell your son what a good boy he is for trying to protect his sister." The woman was agape and lamely said she didn't know what was going on, she was just worried about her daughter getting injured. I would have let it go there but my friend's wife decided to come to her compatriot's defense and said "She has an infant to take care of, he (the husband) has to help watch the kids, she can't do everything herself." I pointed out that she wasn't doing anything but yapping with the wife and that the infant was asleep in a stroller. In fact the mother wouldn't have know what happened to her daughter if a train had hit her. We all parted company after that. I don't expect I'll be getting an invite to dinner anytime soon.